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Post by chrissh on May 18, 2017 10:05:24 GMT -5
Mark, you recently started to roll out your mega picking project. Why don't you focus discussion here, re-post links and give us a view into your thinking, process, applications and such.
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 18, 2017 17:12:31 GMT -5
I'll just wait for specific questions if anyone has any. I'm skeptical that any of this can even be taught. I thought the BoSotronics stuff was transmissible to the average bear but that turned out to not be true.  |
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Post by chrissh on May 18, 2017 17:37:39 GMT -5
A couple of months ago you bookmarked a "coming soon" Fbook group for this project, and I understood you were going to have a grand opening with book release, statements of intent, pedagogy, examples, etc.
It wouldn't be clear to the uninitiated what you're doing in those ^ videos. What do you think is inaccessible about it? What do you think is accessible about it? What applications could you imagine? Does it serve any particular kind of playing or music that other techniques don't? How could a maniac develop it to eclipse what you've done? What would be its benefits for someone who is not a speed demon?
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 18, 2017 18:15:27 GMT -5
The pdf of the guide was available for about a month for those members of the F-book group (many who are here) but I don't think anybody took a crack at any of it. I'm not going to put a link to it here, though. I think I'll just keep working on the technique for my own amusement, shoot some more vids, and see where it goes from there.
In the abstract I think people can get the parts of it but putting it all together seems to be the breaking point. I think the larger question is: who puts in 4+ hours per day playing guitar?
I did that little poll at FB not too long ago and most people were hardly playing so it's kinda unrealistic to expect anybody to rip up time and space.
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Post by chrissh on May 18, 2017 18:21:55 GMT -5
Okay.
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Post by asb on May 18, 2017 18:38:57 GMT -5
Weird. I downloaded that thing and it DISSAPPEARED COMPLETELY off my hard drive when I was going to start working on it. It's almost like.... it was too dangerous to be in my hands.
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Post by mirth on May 18, 2017 20:03:30 GMT -5
Don't think I've seen that second video. Interestingly enough I can't economy pick for shit, so 2 note patterns are actually easier for me to burn on with strict alternate picking. Aside from banjo rolls and just for tonal reasons I am faster with alternate picking than hybrid picking.
Have you worked up any weird grouping hybrid picking patterns to play linear ideas...like maybe down up pluck...3 note per string kind of thing.
I do for texture play a lot of stuff pick/pluck/pick/pluck and I'm actually fairly fast at it. And I like how it dynamically and tonally changes the line I am playing.
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Post by sevenfour on May 19, 2017 5:34:33 GMT -5
I just didn't get a chance to look at the pdf...I have lot of books I work out of. I'm doing a little more in the last week, finally reading through Slonimsky Theasurus.
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Post by sonicdeviant on May 19, 2017 18:06:49 GMT -5
I'll just wait for specific questions if anyone has any. I'm skeptical that any of this can even be taught. I thought the BoSotronics stuff was transmissible to the average bear but that turned out to not be true. Yeah, I had a question when you first posted this: how exactly are you doing it? LOL! It's one thing to demo it but some explanation of what the right hand fingers are doing versus what the pick is doing when tackling a 2-note per string pattern would be helpful. Maybe this is in your recently published work that I need to delve into a little more. |
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Post by sonicdeviant on May 19, 2017 18:09:01 GMT -5
Don't think I've seen that second video. Interestingly enough I can't economy pick for shit, so 2 note patterns are actually easier for me to burn on with strict alternate picking. Aside from banjo rolls and just for tonal reasons I am faster with alternate picking than hybrid picking. I've been economy picking for years so I'm trying to go back and just alternate pick now. Boy that's not easy. I think it sounds more accurate when alternate picked; the economy thing allows for speed, sure, but it can get kind of sloppy because it's hard to accent the right notes and stay in time. |
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 19, 2017 20:38:26 GMT -5
I'll just wait for specific questions if anyone has any. I'm skeptical that any of this can even be taught. I thought the BoSotronics stuff was transmissible to the average bear but that turned out to not be true. Yeah, I had a question when you first posted this: how exactly are you doing it? LOL! It's one thing to demo it but some explanation of what the right hand fingers are doing versus what the pick is doing when tackling a 2-note per string pattern would be helpful. Maybe this is in your recently published work that I need to delve into a little more. It's all in the pdf .... there's not too many tabs to work through. |
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 19, 2017 20:39:33 GMT -5
This will be tough, there's no doubt about it. You have to have your alt picking down cold, sweeping, econo-picking, mini sweeps + hybrid picking and banjo rolls
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Post by sonicdeviant on May 20, 2017 4:04:00 GMT -5
This will be tough, there's no doubt about it. You have to have your alt picking down cold, sweeping, econo-picking, mini sweeps + hybrid picking and banjo rolls I'll check your PDF. Sorry. Crazy busy here lately; 2.5 months from my retirement ceremony! I've got the sweeping/economy picking down but my alternate picking needs some work. |
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 20, 2017 7:36:44 GMT -5
why retire if you have to then get a job? lol
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Post by dasein on May 23, 2017 8:16:47 GMT -5
I didn't save the PDF because of [work/kid/I'm an idiot, etc]. But I have been working on this stuff for a while now.
I've got the basic technique (the ur-movement?) down pretty solid. If I haven't practiced it in a while, it only takes a little bit of time to "grease the groove" and get it feeling good. It really is a feel thing -- too many micro-events to break down on an individual level. When you get it going, it almost feels like ice-skating: effortless continuous motion as long as that feel stays solid.
What I need to work on now is:
- getting comfortable with all the string possibilities. 2 or 3 consecutive strings feels great, some of the other combinations (especially the ones that use the pinky) less so.
- getting more fluent with different bits of vocabulary. Mark is right, these different ideas aren't really "licks" per se, more like Lego bricks
- switching and joining the different bricks together fluently. It's not too hard to do it on a very simple level, but when the ideas get more complex, it's easy for it to feel like a runaway freight train
I'll try to post some video sometime this week when I have a moment.
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