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Post by aliensporebomb on Nov 2, 2012 16:37:28 GMT -5
Weird.
A band I like recently had 3 members suddenly depart and be replaced despite just coming out with a very strong album.
In brief: 3 of the original members are gone. One had a day gig I knew about, the other two were just not listed there anymore when the band posted about new members.
I mentioned on the bands facebook page that I thought this was a bit odd. No commentary was made about my comment.
Today though I received unsolicited personal email from one of the departed members that the remaining members want him erased from the history of the band (despite the fact that he's on the first four records and played with them on and off for over 20 years and pictured on all the album sleeves) and the most disturbing of all:
"The politics in the band are really scary... Its got a slight soviet feel to it. Its kind of interesting that noone replies to the question why Im not in the band anymore."
Sometimes I'm glad I call the shots in my little solo project because I've been in bands with weird politics but that was kind of strange. Seems like a nice guy, too bad he's been railroaded out.
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Post by Infinite Ego on Nov 2, 2012 19:51:31 GMT -5
we had a guy with a George Bush bumper sticker on his car come out to audition for bass one time. I told him not to bother getting his guitar out of the case. We stood around staring at him for a while and he left.
I cannot get creative if I'm surrounded by bad vibes. No Republican has groove.
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Post by mirth on Nov 3, 2012 6:43:04 GMT -5
Band vibes are definitely odd most of the time. Crazy they're trying to erase those guys from their history. I've definitely been in bands where there is some fascist bullshit going on. Funny, is they always start nice, then??
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Post by Infinite Ego on Nov 3, 2012 8:14:57 GMT -5
Fascists always start off nice LOL
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Post by chrissh on Nov 3, 2012 10:30:12 GMT -5
So who is this 2/5 integrity nuevo-fascist band?
Collaborating with simpatico folks is FUN. "Rock bands", in that narrow 20th century industrialized sense, are fraught out of the gate. Youthful glamour be damned, it always required exploitation and egos akimbo.
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Post by mirth on Nov 3, 2012 18:07:13 GMT -5
It seems to me it's almost always the ones who want to "make it" (whatever that means) so bad they'd kill anyone in their path, but don't do much proactively to make things better. They're experts after all.
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Post by aliensporebomb on Nov 9, 2012 17:00:05 GMT -5
I'll just say they're swedish and leave it at that for the moment. He could be back in the band if I announce who it was, knowing them.
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Post by aliensporebomb on Dec 27, 2012 21:59:02 GMT -5
OK - it's public now, in a way I never expected:
Background: the band members have had day jobs for 20 years (white collar from what I can tell) for the most part but the drummer has worked at a producer at his own recording studio and worked with bands for years.
The first four minutes is interesting and crazy then at 4:53 he has a discussion with his wife that foreshadows what happens around 7 minutes:
Watch from 7 minutes on, you start to see a band imploding in a very quiet yet public way. I've never seen anything quite like this.
The upshot is at 12:10.
After this the drummer was gone, the lead guitarist is gone (ostensibly the producer that suggested the method of using the demos as a template for the studio recordings) and the keyboardist is also gone.
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Post by chrissh on Jan 5, 2013 23:24:43 GMT -5
Was experimentation a threat to their commercial status or was a personality clash?
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Post by aliensporebomb on Jan 7, 2013 10:42:37 GMT -5
Seems like the drummer, who had extensive experience in production wanted to produce the recording using lots of innovative effects processing chains whereas the rest of the band wanted everything to sound almost exactly like the demos they put together but studio quality.
The insistence on everything being like the demo is almost classical in nature where they go by the score with no deviation. Kind of a strange thing for a "rock" band.
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Post by chrissh on Jan 7, 2013 11:03:50 GMT -5
Wasn't classic European prog initially about using rock as a vehicle for the methods of classical composition? Like, not much improv or deviation or blues to speak of?
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Post by aliensporebomb on Jan 7, 2013 12:57:34 GMT -5
Wasn't classic European prog initially about using rock as a vehicle for the methods of classical composition? Like, not much improv or deviation or blues to speak of? Ah good point - then the drummer was the only guy who didn't think like that since the remainder of the band were on the same page. He said they all wanted to do the studio recordings exactly as the demos. He even said "why not do overdubs on the demos then and release that?"
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