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Post by aliensporebomb on Jul 27, 2012 10:29:04 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I haven't seen this video before where he actually explains what he was thinking when he put that tuning system together.
To this day I still haven't really tried a guitar except a weird Washburn with this system and I didn't really have time to put it thru its paces.
Anyone out there have a guitar with this?
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Post by bear on Jul 27, 2012 15:14:42 GMT -5
My understanding is that PRS had moved the nut position in similar manner years before Buzz's system came out. They just weren't instructing the tuning offsets. I imagine people have been doing tuning offsets for a while, like the Jerry Donahue three saddle Tele setup. Buzz might have had the unique intentional combination, though.
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Post by mirth on Jul 27, 2012 21:24:45 GMT -5
Nice find on the video. Never actually knew what he was doing exactly, though figured it was something like that. I've heard really good things from people about the "system". Is it something you can do on any guitar?
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Post by aliensporebomb on Jul 29, 2012 0:29:32 GMT -5
Yes. It's apparently a nut retrofitting and bridge adjustment that can be set back to stock with no visual clues that anything had been changed - I wonder how they would do that? Special nut that fits the standard space but the space changed? I've thought about having it done on a guitar or two.
I heard Joe Satriani did the rhythm guitars on his "Crystal Planet" using the Feiten system as an effect: he did two rhythm guitars non-Feiten tuning system and two other guitars with the Feiten system. This way, all the power chords had a very thick slightly detuned effect similar to chorus or doubling but without any effect - really different. Clever idea.
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Post by hexabuzz on Jul 29, 2012 0:38:24 GMT -5
There's a lot of interesting info on his site - I remember checking it out a bit, in depth, a few months ago. Anyway, here's info, including top and side pictures, of the shelf nut: www.buzzfeiten.com/howitworks/howitworks.htm |
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 29, 2012 7:16:42 GMT -5
If I use my Peterson strobe to both intonate and tune using the "gtr" mode I get good-sounding chords regardless of the shape or location on the neck.... It gives you appropriate offsets
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Post by aliensporebomb on Jul 29, 2012 11:14:03 GMT -5
Aren't they out of tune though?
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 29, 2012 11:20:58 GMT -5
Aren't they out of tune though? But sounds in tune. Go figure. |
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Post by mirth on Jul 29, 2012 18:31:28 GMT -5
So will it be out of tune with other instruments?
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 29, 2012 19:43:59 GMT -5
So will it be out of tune with other instruments? No, the offsets only effect the G B and E strings every so slightly. Your instrument will blend with itself and other instruments better. Pianos are 'out of tune' with themselves and other instruments but 'play well with others', no? |
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Post by aliensporebomb on Aug 1, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
What's so important about being in tune anyway? Nevermind.
Yeah, if it sounds in tune then reality has shifted sufficiently for my purposes.
Oddly, some guitars seem more in tune than others even when fully in tune as they can be. That's not so bad, really. Sometimes you want a little edgier sound.
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Post by bear on Aug 1, 2012 19:48:20 GMT -5
I gather that zero frets are supposed to play out much like the shifted nut position. As I had mentioned, PRS already shifted the nut, and others probably had, too. And then there's just happenstance, I guess, of things coming together in a particular guitar.
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