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Post by mirth on Jul 22, 2017 12:37:02 GMT -5
So all these cats back in the day were playing plexis and twins, dumbles etc....were you just allowed to play a shit ton louder back in the day?
For instance how could EJ possibly have dialed that tone in in clubs? It's so damn loud...i don't even get to crank my 40 watt amps above lime 1.5 I most places....how are they diming 100 watt Marshalls?
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 22, 2017 18:35:15 GMT -5
I saw EJ at a small venue in the 80s and he just cranked the Marshall and Fender amps .... it was deafening to say the least. Painful actually.
I talked with a guy who saw him at a Holliday Inn in a wide spot in the road out in MO who said it was just like that. Low ceiling and cranked amps. Everybody was driven out of the lounge. LOL
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Post by mirth on Jul 24, 2017 8:16:14 GMT -5
Was it more acceptable before for club musicians to play unbelievably loud?
I don't feel like I've ever had the chance, haha. I'm jealous, though my ears are thankful.
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 24, 2017 8:26:44 GMT -5
Generally, if there's food being served in a sit-down environ. then the expectation is that the volume will be low. If it is more of beer and pretzel joint then the volume is not an issue.
When I played around the KC area I was banned from a couple of venues because I always played over the drums and my drummer was really loud because he was trying to play over my amp LOL
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Post by brucestevens on Jul 24, 2017 10:51:51 GMT -5
In my younger days it was crushing at times. My college band I many times ran two solid state amps (65 and 75 watts) in stereo at about 8 or 9. It was painfully loud. My post college band I used a 65 watt Musicman and ran it at about 8 or 9. Sounded great, lost some hearing. Played with many bands that overwhelmed the PA with stage volume.
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Post by brucestevens on Jul 24, 2017 10:52:30 GMT -5
I will say, I saw Sumac last year. It was painfully loud. With earplugs (good ones) my ears still rang for a couple of days afterwards.
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Post by sonicdeviant on Jul 25, 2017 4:19:21 GMT -5
I have this huge Carvin SS amp, and I've rarely had it over 2 with a full band--including a big band I once gigged with. It can melt faces. I guess 10 would be "Ludicrous Loud."
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Post by mirth on Jul 25, 2017 7:52:27 GMT -5
I've played a lot of bar gigs. It's basically never possible to he super loud...at least in my experience. I can't say I've ever really opened up my Legacy or Mesa...they are insanely loud for home, haha...maybe I'm just a wuss though.
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Post by mirth on Jul 25, 2017 7:53:38 GMT -5
But I also think if Robben Ford and Larry Carlton....they definitely do the dinner band scene a bit but with 100 watt amps....super loud.
I should probably be a bigger dick about it and play louder.
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Post by asb on Jul 25, 2017 8:07:54 GMT -5
Holdsworth built his own "juice extractor" and my friend John Erickson from Whoopgnash owns one. Basically it lets you dime a tube amp and take a line out and play it at a level that won't kill birds in the air from 100 feet away. Brilliant piece of gear. Rocktron paid him for the design and initially sold duplicates but then they dumbed the design down - so AH started making them his way again. AH had special switches that let you do boost and cut to certain frequencies and he really had an interesting piece of equipment. He was making them up until the last year of his life I'm told. I never saw an ad, it was all done by word of mouth. I know Tom Scholz had a similar thing that let you dime a Marshall without killing people.
Loudest gig I did in the last 5 years was this: holy crap - I kept turning down and the PA guy kept turning up - filmed by the narcoleptic cameraman:
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 25, 2017 9:00:50 GMT -5
Tim, take a look at the new Universal Audio OX
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Post by mirth on Jul 25, 2017 14:04:04 GMT -5
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Post by mirth on Jul 25, 2017 14:07:37 GMT -5
but it costs more than my amps, lol. I could just buy like a used Suhr Badger for a bit more.
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 25, 2017 14:27:12 GMT -5
tube amps are kinda 'useless' unless you can crank the power section. You need a good reactive load box, crank the power section to 10, and then add in some preamp gain to taste
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jul 25, 2017 14:27:44 GMT -5
you also probably need a more mid-focused speaker cabinet like a Soldano with that crazy EV speaker they use
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