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Post by Infinite Ego on May 11, 2017 17:51:57 GMT -5
For a company this small there are 105 new Knaggs guitars for sale on Reverb and 40 used !
I suspect people don't bond with that 8" neck radius
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Post by chrissh on May 12, 2017 1:11:30 GMT -5
Even 12" feels a hair too small for me. Who in the world prefers a radius that small?
Knaggs was once affiliated with PRS?
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Post by asb on May 12, 2017 7:13:36 GMT -5
Knaggs was once the "master builder" at PRS - he was second only to Paul or the like and at his height there was doing a lot of the private stock high end guitars from what I understand.
It never really came to light so far as I'm aware why he left or was pushed out but it may have been during that financial downturn period in the mid to late 2000s that PRS was seriously hurting financially. Or maybe Knaggs said "I've learned all I can, time to try and run my own guitar company." Maybe that story will come out someday.
Knaggs designs are something only a mother could love in a way - garish over the top leopard patterns, strange blue lapis inlays on the body and whatnot. Occasionally I see something that looks somewhat nice but there's always something that throws it off: an innapropriate pickguard tinged with mother of pearl on a guitar that doesn't need it, or a weird two tone wood design somewhere. And the prices are in the "if I'm paying this much for a knaggs I might as well get myself a prs" category.
And yeah, those low radius things just don't work for modern high velocity playing that much -worrying to see so many used examples of a somewhat new builders line in one place - reverb is like a virtual knaggs store.
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 12, 2017 7:45:16 GMT -5
He ran the Private Stock program and left on good terms
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Post by chrissh on May 12, 2017 8:37:15 GMT -5
To be honest, I never really understood why PRS uses a 10" radius. It seems 12" would be a minimum for a modern guitar, or a compound radius.
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 12, 2017 10:01:25 GMT -5
To be honest, I never really understood why PRS uses a 10" radius. It seems 12" would be a minimum for a modern guitar, or a compound radius. It was supposed to be the sublation of the Fender 7.25" and the Gibson 12" |
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 12, 2017 10:02:08 GMT -5
Oddly, the Ibanez Satriani models have 10" radius fretboards
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Post by chrissh on May 12, 2017 11:14:02 GMT -5
Fender moved to 10" (actually 9.5") in that same compromise. I guess it works okay, but I think it might be a concession to older guys who were raised on vintage style necks.
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Post by mirth on May 12, 2017 11:46:34 GMT -5
Too expensive for me to care, haha
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 12, 2017 12:46:04 GMT -5
Fender moved to 10" (actually 9.5") in that same compromise. I guess it works okay, but I think it might be a concession to older guys who were raised on vintage style necks. I think the 'average' PRS player is an older guy who wants refined vintage. I hardly ever try to 'shred' on my PRSi because they do feel 'slow' compared to my other guitars. They're classic rock machines. |
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Post by asb on May 13, 2017 9:34:53 GMT -5
"Older player who wants refined vintage" - you hit the nail on the head I think. Though some PRS are designed for a speedier experience but I'm thinking of the SE model with a Floyd.
I had tried a Torero that had a wider thicker neck that surprised me a bit. So, if you call them "classic rock machines" it's probably "more likely to make you money because you're not shredding like a maniac with it".
Strangely the Ibanez Joe model (which I've had a chance to play, one of the spendier ones) actually feels a lot like a "refined" stratocaster with a slicker feel but basically a strat since the neck seems a little thicker than the traditional thin Ibanez wizard type neck.
Compare it to an RG and it's a totally different feel. RG is more "traditional superstrat" with thinner "wizard" neck. I suppose that goes for the Vai model since it's basically a RG with a handle in the upper part of the body. And the radius is closer to 15 on those models.
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Post by Infinite Ego on May 13, 2017 11:26:45 GMT -5
the neck on the JS model is a replica of the one on his fav Strat
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Post by asb on May 15, 2017 22:53:35 GMT -5
Interesting. He has gravitated to 24-fret fingerboards of late so I wonder if he's trying to 'expand his range' or such.
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Post by Infinite Ego on Jun 11, 2017 16:15:58 GMT -5
I think most of the guys that buy them are sitting in a dark room letting their guard down....then you show it to somebody and suddenly it dawns on you that it looks like this:   |
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Post by chromedinette on Jun 12, 2017 5:20:41 GMT -5
After decades of looking at them, I have concluded that most guitars are ugly.
I won't let a guitars ugliness get in the way if it falls into my hands and works for me, but I can't imagine going out of my way to procure some of the stuff people lose their minds over these days.
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